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		<title>By: M-RES</title>
		<link>http://www.themememe.com/10-questions-for-bloggers-and-web-designers#comment-781</link>
		<dc:creator>M-RES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert I think you&#039;re right about a lot of points, but from a designer&#039;s point of view the web is a paradox.

It is both a prison of constricting limitations (you can&#039;t use any font you like unless you stick to graphics and then they bump page loads, aren&#039;t as easily indexable/searchable  et al), and a plain of enlightened freedom (you don&#039;t need to WORRY about getting those line-breaks perfect, or manually styling every aspect once you&#039;ve built your (tedious) stylesheets, you&#039;re not locked to the physical dimensions of sheets of paper and so on.

When print designers first move to the web they fall into the &#039;guilty party&#039; list in terms of forcing browser windows to a specific size, forcing smaller font sizes, trying to use odd formats for layout - basically fighting AGAINST the technology that they see trying to remove their absolute design control.

After a while they see how liberating it can be to let go of that obsessive need for control and work WITH the technology. Using CSS to give them the intricate control they desire without restricting their users to a specific window size. They see how the user should be able to look at a page in the way that suits them best for their device, OS, browser, graphics card.

One of the issues I have with some websites is that they use small fonts because the site is designed with ONLY Windows users in mind, so when viewing on a Mac with it&#039;s inherently higher default resolutions, the same number of pixels takes up a smaller space.

What I try to do these days is avoid px measurements in my CSS and revert to print-terms such as ems, picas and points - which look great in relation to each other and will display much more consistently. Plus they&#039;re easier to visualise from a print designer&#039;s perspective without having to continually check the effects of changes to a stylesheet. For instance you KNOW what 11 on 16pt Verdana is going to look like with 0.5 pica paragraph padding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert I think you&#8217;re right about a lot of points, but from a designer&#8217;s point of view the web is a paradox.</p>
<p>It is both a prison of constricting limitations (you can&#8217;t use any font you like unless you stick to graphics and then they bump page loads, aren&#8217;t as easily indexable/searchable  et al), and a plain of enlightened freedom (you don&#8217;t need to WORRY about getting those line-breaks perfect, or manually styling every aspect once you&#8217;ve built your (tedious) stylesheets, you&#8217;re not locked to the physical dimensions of sheets of paper and so on.</p>
<p>When print designers first move to the web they fall into the &#8216;guilty party&#8217; list in terms of forcing browser windows to a specific size, forcing smaller font sizes, trying to use odd formats for layout &#8211; basically fighting AGAINST the technology that they see trying to remove their absolute design control.</p>
<p>After a while they see how liberating it can be to let go of that obsessive need for control and work WITH the technology. Using CSS to give them the intricate control they desire without restricting their users to a specific window size. They see how the user should be able to look at a page in the way that suits them best for their device, OS, browser, graphics card.</p>
<p>One of the issues I have with some websites is that they use small fonts because the site is designed with ONLY Windows users in mind, so when viewing on a Mac with it&#8217;s inherently higher default resolutions, the same number of pixels takes up a smaller space.</p>
<p>What I try to do these days is avoid px measurements in my CSS and revert to print-terms such as ems, picas and points &#8211; which look great in relation to each other and will display much more consistently. Plus they&#8217;re easier to visualise from a print designer&#8217;s perspective without having to continually check the effects of changes to a stylesheet. For instance you KNOW what 11 on 16pt Verdana is going to look like with 0.5 pica paragraph padding.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.themememe.com/10-questions-for-bloggers-and-web-designers#comment-780</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://journal.barleyhut.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Griffin &amp; Hoxie&lt;/a&gt; is great. The writing and design are superb, and Amos is as restless a designer as I am, but far more talented. He refreshes often and it&#039;s always interesting to see what he comes up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://journal.barleyhut.com/" rel="nofollow">Griffin &#038; Hoxie</a> is great. The writing and design are superb, and Amos is as restless a designer as I am, but far more talented. He refreshes often and it&#8217;s always interesting to see what he comes up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, you&#039;re absolutely right: everything comes down to preferences. There&#039;s no one design that&#039;s going to please everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, you&#8217;re absolutely right: everything comes down to preferences. There&#8217;s no one design that&#8217;s going to please everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew West</title>
		<link>http://www.themememe.com/10-questions-for-bloggers-and-web-designers#comment-778</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both for the writing and the design.

(Sorry for the double post.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both for the writing and the design.</p>
<p>(Sorry for the double post.)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew West</title>
		<link>http://www.themememe.com/10-questions-for-bloggers-and-web-designers#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually been considering keeping only the most recent post, and displaying the rest as excerpts. It&#039;s a great compromise to the usability problem.

Still, one of the reasons I chose to display entire posts is that many people, or at least those I&#039;ve  talked to, prefer it that way.  For all the pseudo-science and theory we can try to apply to design, it still comes down to the seemingly arbitrary preferences of the user.

Oh, and I think I&#039;ll add Griffin and Hoxie to my list of places to visit for inspiration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually been considering keeping only the most recent post, and displaying the rest as excerpts. It&#8217;s a great compromise to the usability problem.</p>
<p>Still, one of the reasons I chose to display entire posts is that many people, or at least those I&#8217;ve  talked to, prefer it that way.  For all the pseudo-science and theory we can try to apply to design, it still comes down to the seemingly arbitrary preferences of the user.</p>
<p>Oh, and I think I&#8217;ll add Griffin and Hoxie to my list of places to visit for inspiration.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.themememe.com/10-questions-for-bloggers-and-web-designers#comment-776</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew: I think full posts on the home page can work, but only if you limit them to five posts or so. Better yet, have one full post and several recent excerpts. I&#039;m against full posts precisely because most readers are skimmers; it&#039;s easier to skim excerpts and then go to the posts you really want to read. Most of your new visitors probably come to you via Google anyway, so they&#039;ll decide from that landing post whether or not you&#039;re a good read.

I agree with you about white screens. There&#039;s some controversy about what is more readable (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/08/on-the-readability-of-inverted-color-schemes/&quot; title=&quot;On the readability of inverted color schemes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;On the readability of inverted color schemes&lt;/a&gt;, for example). The problem is that most designers don&#039;t know how to do white on black properly, or they use other, less readable, colors on a black background.

Daring Fireball doesn&#039;t use a black background. It works because the background color is softer and easier on the eyes, and there&#039;s ample line-height (1.8em).

@Javier: That&#039;s an interesting idea, but I&#039;m not a fan of liquid layouts. Liquid layouts change the length of the line, which can affect readability, and they break easily. Your example works as well as it does because there are no images and it creates additional columns as the width increases, but still, I think it&#039;s a bit of a gimmick. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew: I think full posts on the home page can work, but only if you limit them to five posts or so. Better yet, have one full post and several recent excerpts. I&#8217;m against full posts precisely because most readers are skimmers; it&#8217;s easier to skim excerpts and then go to the posts you really want to read. Most of your new visitors probably come to you via Google anyway, so they&#8217;ll decide from that landing post whether or not you&#8217;re a good read.</p>
<p>I agree with you about white screens. There&#8217;s some controversy about what is more readable (see <a href="http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2006/08/on-the-readability-of-inverted-color-schemes/" title="On the readability of inverted color schemes" rel="nofollow">On the readability of inverted color schemes</a>, for example). The problem is that most designers don&#8217;t know how to do white on black properly, or they use other, less readable, colors on a black background.</p>
<p>Daring Fireball doesn&#8217;t use a black background. It works because the background color is softer and easier on the eyes, and there&#8217;s ample line-height (1.8em).</p>
<p>@Javier: That&#8217;s an interesting idea, but I&#8217;m not a fan of liquid layouts. Liquid layouts change the length of the line, which can affect readability, and they break easily. Your example works as well as it does because there are no images and it creates additional columns as the width increases, but still, I think it&#8217;s a bit of a gimmick. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Javier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great list. I agree with yo in all the items. Regarding number nine (redimensioning of the browser window) I&#039;ve come across a very interesting technique that you might implement in you future designs. The site where I saw it has many of the deffects in your list (dark background and not enough empty space for starters) but this &#039;trick&#039; it uses I find very amusing. He has fluid columns that when the window gets to be to small merge together to form a single column of text, mantaining its proportions all the time. I think that for someone passionate about grids as you are this could be interesting:
http://blog.persistent.info/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great list. I agree with yo in all the items. Regarding number nine (redimensioning of the browser window) I&#8217;ve come across a very interesting technique that you might implement in you future designs. The site where I saw it has many of the deffects in your list (dark background and not enough empty space for starters) but this &#8216;trick&#8217; it uses I find very amusing. He has fluid columns that when the window gets to be to small merge together to form a single column of text, mantaining its proportions all the time. I think that for someone passionate about grids as you are this could be interesting:<br />
<a href="http://blog.persistent.info/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.persistent.info/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on most points, though I think there are instances in which full posts, rather than excerpts, are simply more user friendly. You&#039;re absolutely right that a list of long posts can quickly become a mess; just as excerpts can quickly become a usability nightmare.

In my case, I went with full posts because much of my audience are skimmers; they won&#039;t go father than the home page until I&#039;ve already proven to be a good read. I may yet change that format, but for now, I think it works well.

I&#039;d also like to speak up on behalf of light-on-dark websites. Yes, like so many other things, it can be done poorly – maybe it often is. However, a white screen isn&#039;t necessarily easy on the eyes, either. After a while, it can feel like looking into the sun.

In fact, one of my favorite site designs happens to be guilty on both counts: the famous &lt;a href=&quot;http://daringfireball.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Daring Fireball&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on most points, though I think there are instances in which full posts, rather than excerpts, are simply more user friendly. You&#8217;re absolutely right that a list of long posts can quickly become a mess; just as excerpts can quickly become a usability nightmare.</p>
<p>In my case, I went with full posts because much of my audience are skimmers; they won&#8217;t go father than the home page until I&#8217;ve already proven to be a good read. I may yet change that format, but for now, I think it works well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to speak up on behalf of light-on-dark websites. Yes, like so many other things, it can be done poorly – maybe it often is. However, a white screen isn&#8217;t necessarily easy on the eyes, either. After a while, it can feel like looking into the sun.</p>
<p>In fact, one of my favorite site designs happens to be guilty on both counts: the famous <a href="http://daringfireball.net/" rel="nofollow">Daring Fireball</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Mac tip, Ian. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Mac tip, Ian. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great list, Robert. Mac users can save themselves burned retinas on black-background sites by pressing control-option-command-8. It inverts your screen colors. I use it all the time. That and Shift-Command-S with the Web Developer Toolbar for Firefox. It removes all stylesheets and makes everything perfectly readable bare HTML. Sad, but useful on standards-aware, &quot;over-designed&quot; sites.

(Control-Option-Command-8 is also great for April Fools Day)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great list, Robert. Mac users can save themselves burned retinas on black-background sites by pressing control-option-command-8. It inverts your screen colors. I use it all the time. That and Shift-Command-S with the Web Developer Toolbar for Firefox. It removes all stylesheets and makes everything perfectly readable bare HTML. Sad, but useful on standards-aware, &#8220;over-designed&#8221; sites.</p>
<p>(Control-Option-Command-8 is also great for April Fools Day)</p>
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